The Magicanada Project

Michael Kras · Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject:

Marlo was terrible at naming his original works, wasn't he?

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Liam · Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 424

The names seem to be vague discriptions with his name added

did marlos colour change come before the pirouette change?
yes, i am interested in the history
please post some if you dont mind

Michael Kras · Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:05 am Post subject:

The Prouette Change IS Marlo's. It's another, shorter name for it, much like The Twirl Change (as Sankey has dubbed it).
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Ben Train · Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 268

Ben Train · Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 268

Alright,

Here's a brief history of the evolution of one of the most iconic of the modern color changes.

Vernon publishes the Threw-the-Fist change. Essentially a face-up card, when pushed through the hand, changes.

Marlo, in an attempt to make the move more "open" (though, in fairness, I cannot say for sure what his intentions were) released In-lieu-of-the-through-the-fist change, in lieu meaning, essentially, "instead of". In both changes the cards start in the same positions (back to back) and the change occurs when the two cards are turned over. Marlo's version has become the standard, and it is often called the twirl change (because of the cover used).

At this point things get muddied. This is the version I believe.

Oscar Munoz comes up with, and begins showing around, the Pirouette change, which occurs at eye level. One handling though involves holding the cards by the corners and pulling with the other hand.

At about the same time Marc DeSouza published the Shapeshifter. There was some confusion over ownership at the time, but I believe both gentleman have worked things out- Oscar's handling, shown to Marc, was the inspiration (though they do share many similarities).

Both the Muno source and the DeSouza source were published in Beam's The Trapdoor, sometime in '93.

That, in a nutshell, is the brief history.

Now, here's the mad-hardcore trivia challenge, serious props if anyone gets it.

What MAJOR source is MISSING from the history? It's a MAJOR source.

Ben

Michael Kras · Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject:

Ah, you're right Ben, I was getting everything mixed up. Thank you for clearing that up.
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Ben Train · Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 268

No guesses?

I'll give you a hint- you KNOW the name of the move, but people often associate it with a later change (often seen on sankey's tapes...)

What's the change, and whose is it?

I've decided there's a prize!
Ben

Michael Kras · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject:

Is this move The Illogical Double Lift? Was it published by Marlo?
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BrianMillerMagic · Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 543 Location: New York State

The Illogical Double Lift was created by Harry Loryane.
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Michael Kras · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject:

My mistake, thank you Brian.

The only two colour changes I have known Jay to use in his tapes are The "Erdnase" Change and Marlo's "Twirl Change". Erdnase is not an inclusion on the list of back-to-back changes and I have known Sankey to use the Illogical Double Lift on occasion.

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