The Magicanada Project

Liam · Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 424

Last i heard, there where three...
Palm
Control
Force

but the three others might be....
Multiple Lift
False cut (or shuffle)
and peek?
maybe?

LIVR · Joined: 29 Aug 2008 Posts: 52 Location: Ontario

That's just Michael's list with fewer words.

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Reuben The Great · Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 245

I don't know who you aare, but I'd watch out calling Ben "boy".

Is 'to convince' one of them? I guess that would be an overall good quality of any magic I guess.
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Ben Train · Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 268

My dad actually calls me boy...

Are you my pa?

Michael Kras · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:15 am Post subject:

He's referring to card technique Reuben. Plus, convincing isn't near being one of the most important qualities in magic... also, in my eyes, there is a fine line between convincing and over proving. Convincing may also seem a tad insecure in the wrong magical hands. You're not trying to convince, you're trying to entertain.
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Ben Train · Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 268

Well, yes an no.

Our job is to entertain... with a specific medium (in this case magic). And, for magi to happen we MUST be able to convince an audience of THINGS.

I love this simple definition (which I'm summarizing) of what magic IS: Magic is when there is a change from State A to State B WITHOUT an explanation.

In order to accomplish magic then, we need to be able to convince an audience of three things: first, the condition of the initial state. Second, that nothing to explain the change has occurred. Finally, we need to be able to convince them that a change has occurred.

So, "convincing" is FUNDAMENTAL to what we want to do.

Anyone disagree? Find a flaw with the concept I provided?

Ben

Michael Kras · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:53 am Post subject:

Nope, it looks to be pretty much spot on, at least to me. That is an awesome definition of what magic is Ben! I agree, you definitely do have to convince spectators of certain things, such as, for example, that the four aces are really going onto the table (of course, without directly pointing it out and emphasizing it, that's overkill and very suspicious).
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Ben Train · Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 268

Hey Mike,

I really like that definition as well. Yes, it's a little cold, and loses the emotional and spiritual quotient that is inherent in good magic, but as an ACADEMIC definition it's pretty good.

Something I want to point out though- you don't want to PROVE, you want to convince. Thoughts?

Michael Kras · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:13 am Post subject:

Proving is more blatantly obvious and suspicious, while convincing can be presented in a more subtle, natural manner without directly pointing out any point in your effect.

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