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Liam
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| Ben Train wrote: | I've had the pleasure of seeing Paul do it live, Paul Cummins do it (who invented the effect) and talk to Harry Lorayne about it (the first to publish the system), and I can tell you if you KNOW the correct way to do it (and there IS a right way to do it) then it should take you about 15 seconds to get, with no sweat.
The problem is that most people DON'T know the system, and it becomes hard/slower.
Now, here's a better question- whats the presentation you use for it?
Ben
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Mike, can you bring Paul's write-up when we meet up? I just want to see something. |
i thought it was a vigil effect, thats who i learned it from.
but he didnt have much time to explain, he just said to look up clocking then explained it quickly
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Michael Kras Site Admin

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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Vigil presented a VARIATION on the original Cummins effect.
15 seconds, really? I bought the ebook for Diplopia and if I can find it, I will print off the cloocking section and bring it on saturday.
The presentation and justification I use for the clocking procedure is presented as trying to find the spectator's thought of card. Because it takes me an upwards of 30 seconds to clock the deck, I act as though I am having difficulty tracking down the spectator's thought of card. _________________ Michael Kras
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Michael Kras Site Admin

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:46 am Post subject: |
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I've been taking time to streamline this effect along with a few others of mine that required tweaking. For this one, the handling has been much improved. No more estimations and heavy mental math. _________________ Michael Kras
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Ben Train

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| Last time we got together you were unable to show it to me. Will you be coming to the Browser's Den Party in November, and will you be able to show it to me there? |
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Michael Kras Site Admin

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Likely... if I do end up going. Can't be sure at this point. _________________ Michael Kras
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Ben Train

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Well, for anyone interested:
I'll be there, in a good mood (I like parties!) and looking forward to jamming. I have some pretty cool things I've been sitting on, some of which I think will be of interest to you guys.
I would also LOVE to see some of your stuff people!
Ben
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Mike, I haven't said this yet, but the light/heavy coin idea with the hooked coin was a SWEET idea. |
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Michael Kras Site Admin

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, thank you for the compliment Ben... I'm glad you like my little idea. And if I do make it, I will DEFINITELY be ready to jam! I also have a few really great things to show.
I've also come up with a few interesting ideas for this effect... an Open Prediction type thing, having their merely thought of card completely vanish from the deck only to reappear in the magician's pocket, and a few more tiny ones.
_________________ Michael Kras
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