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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats- you read the FIRST SENTENCE OF MY POST.

But what about points a and b?

What I'm trying to show you here is HOW to get info that you want.

I'm not saying anything else tonight, but HOW would you approach this?

Think about it!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're the toughest nut I've ever tried to crack, Mr. Train. I'll think about it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've studied a lot of these sorts of things. Current control I use are Marlo's EZ Control, Culling, the Pass, double undercutting, and if the effects I am performing permit me to do so, I often include two set-ups in one deck for effects that will not disturb the deck's order. The most effective is the latter but it only works in certain situations for certain effects, so my back up is usually culling for multiple cards to control. This is done under the guise of spreading through the deck prior to the effect's beginning. This move, although executed in a clean manner, can often raise suspicion and register as a fidgety move with spectators. You're a magician, so lord knows what you can do when you spread a deck of cards, right?

I wish to learn a method that doesn't raise suspicion and requires minimal fiddling and overall moves. I feel it would be beneficial to me because it should enhance the impact of a set of different card effects seemingly done one after another with a normal and unprepared deck. With no sort of visible clutter and set-up, the effects should look all the more magical and impossible than if the magician picks  up the deck, spreads through it a few times, and proceeds into the following effect.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What qualifies me to learn is the fact that I wish to acquire this knowledge as it is currently unknown to me. To learn, it matters not how much you know of a subject, but how little you know.

I will be wise and learn, as opposed to teaching about things I have learned.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or perhaps, the willingness and qaulification to learn is just to show true devotion to the topic at hand... to prove what you have learned thus far and to show you wish to extend that knowledge.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Everyone!

I have tried many different methods of controlling cards I need for an effect in front of spectators, between effects. I have worked hard on thse methods, such as simply culling or using other forms of multiple shifts such as specific cutting, and they all get the job done, but I feel like spectators often consider my fiddling with the deck between effects to be suspicious, despite that I try to make it look as natural and flowing as possible. I have really practiced these methods quite hard for a long time but still don't feel satisfied with them.

What methods are available that reduce the fishy actions and provide a quick and natural looking control or shift? I really want to improve my effect set-up transitions and make the magic I perform more impossible and overall, more magical.

Thank you for your help!

Michael



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