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Criss Angel VS David Blaine
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Michael Kras
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Criss executes sleight of hand magic in a horrid manner. His palming is terrible and his overall execution is choppy, nervous, and obvious. When I saw him do a Cap in Bottle a while ago, he blatantly grabbed the cap right off the bottle!



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary Dickson wrote:
BrianMillerMagic wrote:
Gary Dickson wrote:
They both suck!
 You mind defending that position?


Well, there's nothing to defend, is there?  It's an opinion and as such is entirely subjective.


An opinion is in need of defense during the course of a debate if said opinion is to be taken seriously by the participants of the debate.  Thus I was not disagreeing with you but merely asking you to expound on your blanket statement in order to fuel the discussion instead of grinding it to a dead halt.

For the record, not all opinions are correct.  That's a generally false belief that was disproved a long, long time ago by Aristotle in his work The Metaphysics.  But that's a philosophical issue.

I happen to agree with your defense of that statement however Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrianMillerMagic wrote:
Gary Dickson wrote:
BrianMillerMagic wrote:
Gary Dickson wrote:
They both suck!
 You mind defending that position?


Well, there's nothing to defend, is there?  It's an opinion and as such is entirely subjective.


An opinion is in need of defense during the course of a debate if said opinion is to be taken seriously by the participants of the debate.  Thus I was not disagreeing with you but merely asking you to expound on your blanket statement in order to fuel the discussion instead of grinding it to a dead halt.

For the record, not all opinions are correct.  That's a generally false belief that was disproved a long, long time ago by Aristotle in his work The Metaphysics.  But that's a philosophical issue.


While I am happy to enter into discussions about my views, I have no interest in defending them.  This is not a battle, is it?  To my mind, any view held too tightly is incorrect, as we're being philosophical.  This, of course, includes my views of the gentlemen in question.  I think it's unlikely but if I saw them live I might see them in an entirely different light.

Best wishes
Gary
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrianMillerMagic wrote:
Gary Dickson wrote:
BrianMillerMagic wrote:
Gary Dickson wrote:
They both suck!
 You mind defending that position?


Well, there's nothing to defend, is there?  It's an opinion and as such is entirely subjective.


An opinion is in need of defense during the course of a debate if said opinion is to be taken seriously by the participants of the debate.  Thus I was not disagreeing with you but merely asking you to expound on your blanket statement in order to fuel the discussion instead of grinding it to a dead halt.

For the record, not all opinions are correct.  That's a generally false belief that was disproved a long, long time ago by Aristotle in his work The Metaphysics.  But that's a philosophical issue.


While I am happy to enter into discussions about my views, I have no interest in defending them.  This is not a battle, is it?  To my mind, any view held too tightly is incorrect, as we're being philosophical.  This, of course, includes my views of the gentlemen in question.  I think it's unlikely but if I saw them live I might see them in an entirely different light.

Best wishes
Gary
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i respect them both.
They are both definatly moderate magicians.
The thing i think most magicians have against them is that they have made so much money and had so much fame come of their magic, without really being the best.
People like Aaron Fisher and Paul Vigil are much better magicians then either of them, yet no one really knows of them.
I think all of the Blaine and Angle bashing comes mainly from envy and a better view of how skilled they actually are.


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