Michael Kras
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Criss Angel VS David BlaineWho do you prefer? I personally am a huge Blaine supporter. He's got skills and enough talent to make even the simplest effect so powerful and strong. I also find his sleight of hand skills far surpass that of Criss Angel. Also, Criss reeks of arrogance while David is one of the most humble magic celebrities I've ever seen.
Thoughts?
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Liam
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i agree that blaine is better, but i like playing devils advocate.
So i think Criss is better. His effects are simple so much stronger then any of Blaines. Maybe David Blaine can make cards transpose, but Criss Angel can walk through glass and levitate meters off the ground. Some people way that Criss hires spectators to act amazed. I think thats just part of the illusion. Its like you using a gimmik, in my opinion.
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BrianMillerMagic
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Oh the modern classic debate. Much I choose between just these two? If I have to choose between them, I choose David Blaine. Even a year ago or so I would have said that I liked Criss Angel better, but this past year has been terrible for him. He's presented himself like a jerk in the magic community, and Mindfreak really bombed.
I've always considered David Blaine to be a much superior magician to Angel, though I never personally enjoyed the "mysterious stranger" persona. I will say that it definitely works for him. Garrett Thomas brought the following to my attention: When you hear people talk about Blaine or Angel, it's very different. People can't stop talking about Angel's tricks, but they never talk about him. When people talk about Blaine, they rarely mention any particular trick, but instead they obsess over him. It's the difference between "Did you see that one trick Angel did?" and "Did you see David Blaine?" Important difference for laypeople, I think.
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Michael Kras
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Interesting thoughts, for sure. David's persona is very cool and I quite enjoy watching him... I remember being floored by the simplest effects solely because of his presentational skills. He can make anything magical.
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Dbaker
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I like blaine for what he did for magic (re awakening interest after a 10 year lull).
I can't stand angel, never could.
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Gary Dickson
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They both suck!
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Michael Kras
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I don't know, I like Blaine... there's something so pure and organic about his magic, he really knows how to sell the simplest effect too. I do admit, however, that recently he has become a tad bit of a sellout. I still ooze respect for the guy though.
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teddy
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Definitely Blaine. And I think I'm going to see his Dive of Death!
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BrianMillerMagic
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| Gary Dickson wrote: | | They both suck! |
You mind defending that position?
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Gary Dickson
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| BrianMillerMagic wrote: | | Gary Dickson wrote: | | They both suck! |
You mind defending that position? |
Well, there's nothing to defend, is there? It's an opinion and as such is entirely subjective. But, my opinion is that they both suck although for different reasons. Blaine has the personality of a dead fish (at least on TV, anyway) and Angel? Well, he's a joke isn't he? I mean, he's not a real person, surely? The only good thing he's done is Sinful, and that's not even his!
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Michael Kras
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Criss executes sleight of hand magic in a horrid manner. His palming is terrible and his overall execution is choppy, nervous, and obvious. When I saw him do a Cap in Bottle a while ago, he blatantly grabbed the cap right off the bottle!
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BrianMillerMagic
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| Gary Dickson wrote: | | BrianMillerMagic wrote: | | Gary Dickson wrote: | | They both suck! |
You mind defending that position? |
Well, there's nothing to defend, is there? It's an opinion and as such is entirely subjective. |
An opinion is in need of defense during the course of a debate if said opinion is to be taken seriously by the participants of the debate. Thus I was not disagreeing with you but merely asking you to expound on your blanket statement in order to fuel the discussion instead of grinding it to a dead halt.
For the record, not all opinions are correct. That's a generally false belief that was disproved a long, long time ago by Aristotle in his work The Metaphysics. But that's a philosophical issue.
I happen to agree with your defense of that statement however 
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Gary Dickson
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| BrianMillerMagic wrote: | | Gary Dickson wrote: | | BrianMillerMagic wrote: | | Gary Dickson wrote: | | They both suck! |
You mind defending that position? |
Well, there's nothing to defend, is there? It's an opinion and as such is entirely subjective. |
An opinion is in need of defense during the course of a debate if said opinion is to be taken seriously by the participants of the debate. Thus I was not disagreeing with you but merely asking you to expound on your blanket statement in order to fuel the discussion instead of grinding it to a dead halt.
For the record, not all opinions are correct. That's a generally false belief that was disproved a long, long time ago by Aristotle in his work The Metaphysics. But that's a philosophical issue. |
While I am happy to enter into discussions about my views, I have no interest in defending them. This is not a battle, is it? To my mind, any view held too tightly is incorrect, as we're being philosophical. This, of course, includes my views of the gentlemen in question. I think it's unlikely but if I saw them live I might see them in an entirely different light.
Best wishes
Gary
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Gary Dickson
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| BrianMillerMagic wrote: | | Gary Dickson wrote: | | BrianMillerMagic wrote: | | Gary Dickson wrote: | | They both suck! |
You mind defending that position? |
Well, there's nothing to defend, is there? It's an opinion and as such is entirely subjective. |
An opinion is in need of defense during the course of a debate if said opinion is to be taken seriously by the participants of the debate. Thus I was not disagreeing with you but merely asking you to expound on your blanket statement in order to fuel the discussion instead of grinding it to a dead halt.
For the record, not all opinions are correct. That's a generally false belief that was disproved a long, long time ago by Aristotle in his work The Metaphysics. But that's a philosophical issue. |
While I am happy to enter into discussions about my views, I have no interest in defending them. This is not a battle, is it? To my mind, any view held too tightly is incorrect, as we're being philosophical. This, of course, includes my views of the gentlemen in question. I think it's unlikely but if I saw them live I might see them in an entirely different light.
Best wishes
Gary
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Liam
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i respect them both.
They are both definatly moderate magicians.
The thing i think most magicians have against them is that they have made so much money and had so much fame come of their magic, without really being the best.
People like Aaron Fisher and Paul Vigil are much better magicians then either of them, yet no one really knows of them.
I think all of the Blaine and Angle bashing comes mainly from envy and a better view of how skilled they actually are.
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