Colour Changes

Michael Kras · Colour Changes

Any card worker uses some sort of colour change... Even multiple ones. But what is your favourite? The most visual one that is fun to perform and effective?

I've been known to use Marlo's "In Lieu of the Through-The-Fist Move", The Erdnase Change, The Flippant move, and the Illogical double lift. However, my favourite is undoubtedly The Erdnase. I've been doing it for years and, although it's somewhat of an implicit change, it FEELS explicit to spectators. Plus it is visually smooth and beautiful (if executed properly.)

Ben Train

Hi Mike,

Lets be the first forum to get away from calling it the Erdnase Change, as there are four changes in the book, and non of them are what we know refer to as the Erdnase Change.

So, here's a quick three part challenge to anyone here-

1. What is the change actually called (FULL name)?
2. Who is it credited to?
3. Why is the first question important (several possible answers, including ones I haven't thought of!)?

On your ways!
Ben

Michael Kras

I found it on page 154 of Erdnase but no credit is given. I will do a bit more research.

LIVR

Ooh, ooh, The Two Handed Transformation, First Method!

I've heard it occasionally credited to Houdini, but I've also heard a respected historian or two scoff a the idea that Houdini actually created a card move. Doubtless Edwin Sumner Andrews performed it better anyways.

Though in this day and age, you're probably better off performing the variation entitled "Erdnase Plus Vernon" which is skillfully hidden somewhere in print.

Ben Train

Lol.

Ruling out Karr's guy? I actually think he makes quite a bit of sense... but then again, so does Hatch.

Ben
p.s.
I agree about the Vernon handling.

Michael Kras

I have also heard it credited to Houdini, but refuse to believe it. Does anybody know any definite reason why his name is credited alongside E.S?

teddy

I used to use the snap change, but it's pretty angle-sensitive and hard to ditch casually. Now I use a double lift change, the "Erdnase change" Rolling Eyes

, the Flip-Flop Change, and Color by Daniel Madison (a variation of Shapeshifter.

Liam

teddy

Ben Train

Michael Kras

Marlo was terrible at naming his original works, wasn't he?

Liam

The names seem to be vague discriptions with his name added

did marlos colour change come before the pirouette change?
yes, i am interested in the history
please post some if you dont mind

Michael Kras

The Prouette Change IS Marlo's. It's another, shorter name for it, much like The Twirl Change (as Sankey has dubbed it).

Ben Train

Ben Train

Alright,

Here's a brief history of the evolution of one of the most iconic of the modern color changes.

Vernon publishes the Threw-the-Fist change. Essentially a face-up card, when pushed through the hand, changes.

Marlo, in an attempt to make the move more "open" (though, in fairness, I cannot say for sure what his intentions were) released In-lieu-of-the-through-the-fist change, in lieu meaning, essentially, "instead of". In both changes the cards start in the same positions (back to back) and the change occurs when the two cards are turned over. Marlo's version has become the standard, and it is often called the twirl change (because of the cover used).

At this point things get muddied. This is the version I believe.

Oscar Munoz comes up with, and begins showing around, the Pirouette change, which occurs at eye level. One handling though involves holding the cards by the corners and pulling with the other hand.

At about the same time Marc DeSouza published the Shapeshifter. There was some confusion over ownership at the time, but I believe both gentleman have worked things out- Oscar's handling, shown to Marc, was the inspiration (though they do share many similarities).

Both the Muno source and the DeSouza source were published in Beam's The Trapdoor, sometime in '93.

That, in a nutshell, is the brief history.

Now, here's the mad-hardcore trivia challenge, serious props if anyone gets it.

What MAJOR source is MISSING from the history? It's a MAJOR source.

Ben

Michael Kras

Ah, you're right Ben, I was getting everything mixed up. Thank you for clearing that up.

Ben Train

No guesses?

I'll give you a hint- you KNOW the name of the move, but people often associate it with a later change (often seen on sankey's tapes...)

What's the change, and whose is it?

I've decided there's a prize!
Ben

Michael Kras

Is this move The Illogical Double Lift? Was it published by Marlo?

BrianMillerMagic

The Illogical Double Lift was created by Harry Loryane.

Michael Kras

My mistake, thank you Brian.

The only two colour changes I have known Jay to use in his tapes are The "Erdnase" Change and Marlo's "Twirl Change". Erdnase is not an inclusion on the list of back-to-back changes and I have known Sankey to use the Illogical Double Lift on occasion.

Liam

i've heard the term sleeve-change... i dont know if that could be it

Ben Train

The "illogical" predates Harry.

One person here got the right answer, but miss-credited it. It may or may not be the illogical reference.