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Michael Kras
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 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: Kid Show On Wednesday |
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How does this sound for a line-up?
1. Watch Smash, Vanish, Reproduction, Restoration
2. Jay Sankey's Prediction Effect
3. Dove Pan Production of Silks
4. Coin and Silk rotuine with bottle Production finish
5. Just Chince, performed with kids getting candy canes, and magician getting a rock.
6.What's Next (Spot Card)
7. Flower Box Production
8. Strat-o-Sphere with Christmas theme
9. Production of candy canes from dove pan.
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That'll be a really long show. Children tend to lose interest after about 30-45 minutes. You might need to cut it down a bit.
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KidMagic
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Hey,
While we are on the topic of how long a show is... what are your suggestions. In some shows I do up to 18 tricks... and its only about 50-60 Mins. How much do you talk with your audiences? For me personaly just a litte bit only about 10 mins in my show is talking.
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LOL my entire show is talking. However I have a very quick show.
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BrianMillerMagic
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Oh boy. Well, how you structure your act all depends on what kind of audience you are performing for. For a children's show I would not go longer than 30 minutes, and it should be mostly big and visual with minimal talking/patter. Kids are not usually going to follow a patter line no matter how good of a public speaker you are, or how logical your presentation is - the attention span is too little.
If you are performing for adults however, talking/connecting with the audience is absolutely crucial (shameless plug - see my Ebook for a philosophical approach to the importance of presentations).
I will tell you that my stage show is roughly 50 minutes, give or take five, and usually contains 6 routines. A close up show is roughly 40 minutes, again give or take five, and usually contains 8 effects.
Honestly, if you are performing 18 tricks in a set, you are probably not connecting with your audience in any meaningful way. That is just too much for an audience to take in all at once, and I cannot imagine 18 tricks flowing together in a coherent theme.
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To be honest, I'm not a children's magician so I don't perform much children's magic, naturally. I do connect with the kids, and not only that by my show is also clightly educational (gasp)
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Kid's shows should be kept to no more than 45minutes. Alot of the show should consist of gags and humor.
Here's something to remember: People think magic is for kids. That's simply not true. Kids hate magic, they don't understand magic, magic is boring to children. What children like is watching you be stupid, hit yourself, or talk to a puppet that makes you look like the dummy.
When performing for children, you stop being a magician. The magic doesn't matter to them, because a kid will always find an explanation. You need to make them laugh, you need to make them reidicule you, you need to make them smile. You arn't going to amaze them, so don't bother trying - leave that for the parents.
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| Dbaker wrote: | | The magic doesn't matter to them, because a kid will always find an explanation. |
Exactly. That's one of the primary reasons I choose not to perform for children. All kids know how it was done - it was done by magic! They haven't had enough literal life experience to understand "impossible" as a concept, so it isn't impressive to them to see magic from a magician...of course a magician can do magic!
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| BrianMillerMagic wrote: | | Dbaker wrote: | | The magic doesn't matter to them, because a kid will always find an explanation. |
Exactly. That's one of the primary reasons I choose not to perform for children. All kids know how it was done - it was done by magic! They haven't had enough literal life experience to understand "impossible" as a concept, so it isn't impressive to them to see magic from a magician...of course a magician can do magic! |
I've found the explanations children give to be slightly different. They never say, "It's magic, duh!". They always give me very complicated explanations like, "You moved it." or "That's a different one."
There are alot of theories on why children are so hard to entertain:
David Blaine: "Adults enjoy a performance of magic because it breaks down their emotional walls, and allows them to experience 'wonder'. This doesn't work on children, because children exist in a constant state of 'wonder'.
Dan Harlan: "Magic isn't magical to a child, because it's easy to explain. The mind of a child has no limmits, they can imagine absolutely anythting. Some children just accept that the box is capable of making things disappear - it becomes a fact, and hence is not amazing. Some will explain in great detail how the box, table, and vanished item are all really made of paper and aren't really gone at all - you've simply turned them sideways so the child can't see them.
Dustin Baker: "Sure they're cute by themselves, but they're dangerous when they swarm."
My experiences have played more to Harlen's theory than anyone's.
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My Kid shows are usaly only 30 - 45 minutes long... but some of my adult shows run for an hour.
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